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Neroon
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posted 04-04-2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neroon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take a look at the 9th title from the top:
http://books.stonebooks.com/publisher/2536/

I wonder if this is the book previously mentioned by Thomas Titura and Chris Lawrence?

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Chris Lawrence
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posted 04-05-2010 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Lawrence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zamulin's 2005 book is "Prokhorovka: Neizvestnoye Srazheniye Velikoi Voinyi" or roughly Prokhorovka: The Unknown Battle in the Great War.

He also wrote a series of articles a couple of years before then with L. N. Lopukhovskii called: "Prokhorovskoye Srazheniye. Mifyi i realnost" or Battle of Prokhorovka. Myths and Reality. It was in the Voyenno-Istoricheskii Arkhiv [Military Historical Archives], No 9(33) Sentyabr 2002, (Tserera, Moscow, 2002 & 2003); No 10(34) Oktyabr 2002; No 11(35) Noyabr 2002; No 12(36) Dekabr 2002; No 1(37) Yanvar 2003; No 2(38) Fevral 2003; and No 3(39) Mart 2003.

It is all good stuff. I suspect his book by Casemate [Helion & Company] is his 2005 book translated with a slightly different title but won't know until I see it. He was suffering from a lack of access to the German records, which various people were trying to help him with (I was supposed to help, but stopped all Kursk work for 5 years). So, don't know if this book includes additional German material. But, between this and Zetterling's book, you kind of have the data from both sides.

[This message has been edited by Chris Lawrence (edited 04-05-2010).]

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Neroon
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posted 04-07-2010 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neroon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received information from a reliable source (an Eastern Front author Chris and many others know) that the book in question was first recommended to an American publisher, but they declined unless it was shortened, so then Helion took over. By the way, as far as I know, Casemate acts only as Helionīs US distibutor, but is not its owner, as implied by Chris.

By the way Chris, who will publish your book?

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Chris Lawrence
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posted 04-10-2010 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Lawrence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neroon:
By the way Chris, who will publish your book?

Don't have a publisher yet. Still trying to line one up. Part of the problem is that the book is very large, much larger than anything previously published on the battle. I gather this is scaring away the publishers.

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Neroon
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posted 04-11-2010 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neroon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which oublishers have you tried? Have you tried Stackpole, Aberjona, Schiffer (I know, some people do not like this one), JJF, Helion, UPK, Potomac? Perhaps even Naval Institute Press who despite the name have published books on non-naval topics as well?

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Chris Lawrence
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posted 04-11-2010 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Lawrence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neroon:
Which oublishers have you tried? Have you tried Stackpole, Aberjona, Schiffer (I know, some people do not like this one), JJF, Helion, UPK, Potomac? Perhaps even Naval Institute Press who despite the name have published books on non-naval topics as well?

Some of the above. It all takes time.

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Neroon
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posted 04-16-2010 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neroon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, I sent you some mail regarding a possible publisher...

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Gary Dickson
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posted 04-23-2010 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary Dickson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neroon:
I just received information from a reliable source (an Eastern Front author Chris and many others know) that the book in question was first recommended to an American publisher, but they declined unless it was shortened, so then Helion took over. By the way, as far as I know, Casemate acts only as Helionīs US distibutor, but is not its owner, as implied by Chris.

Originally it was University of Kansas Press. Stuart Britton does a lot of translating for them.

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Neroon
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posted 05-01-2010 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neroon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know the UPK part since Dave Glantz told me. UPK did indeed insist on shortening the book.

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Spartan JKM
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posted 01-15-2011 04:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't published yet.

Cheers,

http://www.videogamecountdown.com/p/Book/Valeriy-Zamulin/DEMOLISHING-THE-MYTH-The-Tank-Battle-at-Prokhorovka-Kursk-July-1943-An-Operational-Narrative

James

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Chris Lawrence
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posted 02-09-2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Lawrence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. Did they shorten the book?

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Haglund
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posted 02-21-2011 09:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have comment some of the claims by Krivosheev and Glantz about German losses. Here's what Krivosheev is claiming:

Table E. Wehrmacht Casualties in World War II, 1939-1945

Permanent Losses (dead, missing, or disabled)

Sept. 1939-1 Sept. 1942 922,000 (14% of total force) *

1 Sept. 1942-20 Nov. 1943 2,077,000 (30% of total force) *

20 Nov. 1943-June 1944 1,500,000 (est.)

June-Nov. 1944 1,457,000 *

Dec. 1944-30 April 1945 2,000,000 **

If you check the German totall losses 1939-early June 1944 they are 4 500 000. 1 900 000 killed in action, missing, died in wounds, died diseases, accident etc...

Wounded - 2 600 000

It's very common that at least 70% of those wounded came back to military duties.

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Niklas Zetterling
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posted 02-26-2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Niklas Zetterling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recommend you not to trust figures on German casualties if they originate from Rusian sources or Glantz.

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