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Topic: Number of Soviet Tank and Mechanized Corps
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Greg LG Senior Member
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posted 12-21-2002 11:54 PM
Rich,The rifle divisions are a nightmare. You'll need to pay somebody to do that Sharp does a good job of it, covering a volume on each of the following: - Soviet Rifle Divisions Formed Before 1941.
- Soviet Rifle Divisions Formed From June to December 1941.
- Soviet Rifle Divisions Formed From 1942 to 1945.
- Soviet Guards Rifle and Airborne Units 1941 to 1945.
He also did a volume on Soviet tank, mechanized, motorized divisions and tank brigades of 1940 - 1942.
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craig Senior Member
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posted 12-23-2002 10:22 AM
All,Sorry I couldn't reply over the weekend (my computer has "bought the big one" and I have to wait until my tax returns come back to get a new one. To answer your question: 1) With new material just found in the last six months, Sharp's data on the Rifle Divisions is somewhat dated. Considering the number of Rifle Divisions formed during the war (including those before June 1941) were talking a heck of a lot of work. Before I go any further, I think this part should be taken off-line (e-mail) for further discussion. 2) Yes, and No on the Nafziger publishing my material. Considering the amount of material that I have and will be adding to the series, George and I have come to the understanding that it just would not be feasible to publish the series in its current form. For example, I estimate the July 1943 volume would be ten (10) booklets in size. On the otherhand, Tom Johnson (tangoj@mastereuropa.com) has offered to publish a CD-ROM version of the series, slightly reformatted, with an overall general section and each type of unit having its own Appendix. Plus the fact the number of pages on a CD-ROM can be virtually unlimited. Hope this helps, Regards, Craig
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Greg LG Senior Member
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posted 12-23-2002 12:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by craig: All,Sorry I couldn't reply over the weekend (my computer has "bought the big one" and I have to wait until my tax returns come back to get a new one. To answer your question: 1) With new material just found in the last six months, Sharp's data on the Rifle Divisions is somewhat dated. Considering the number of Rifle Divisions formed during the war (including those before June 1941) were talking a heck of a lot of work. Before I go any further, I think this part should be taken off-line (e-mail) for further discussion. 2) Yes, and No on the Nafziger publishing my material. Considering the amount of material that I have and will be adding to the series, George and I have come to the understanding that it just would not be feasible to publish the series in its current form. For example, I estimate the July 1943 volume would be ten (10) booklets in size. On the otherhand, Tom Johnson (tangoj@mastereuropa.com) has offered to publish a CD-ROM version of the series, slightly reformatted, with an overall general section and each type of unit having its own Appendix. Plus the fact the number of pages on a CD-ROM can be virtually unlimited. Hope this helps,
Craig, That's great! A CD-ROM is the way to go for such a mass of information. I eagerly await the publication of your work.
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Tangoj Senior Member
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posted 12-23-2002 09:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by craig: All,Sorry I couldn't reply over the weekend (my computer has "bought the big one" and I have to wait until my tax returns come back to get a new one. TJ: Now THAT I can help you with! (grin) On the otherhand, Tom Johnson (tangoj@mastereuropa.com) has offered to publish a CD-ROM version of the series, slightly reformatted, with an overall general section and each type of unit having its own Appendix. Plus the fact the number of pages on a CD-ROM can be virtually unlimited. TJ: Indeed, still trying to get things to present nice... I hope to have the first one ready soon! Hope this helps, Regards, Craig
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JM Serrano Senior Member
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posted 12-29-2002 09:02 AM
Going a bit off topic: Which of these Corps got LL Tanks by 1945? AFAIK, 9th GMC in the Kwantun got them in '45 and 1st GMC and 5th MC. Were there any other?
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Greg LG Senior Member
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posted 12-29-2002 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by JM Serrano: Going a bit off topic: Which of these Corps got LL Tanks by 1945? AFAIK, 9th GMC in the Kwantun got them in '45 and 1st GMC and 5th MC. Were there any other?
Ah Criminy! The form lost my original response, and I'm without time to retype it, so suffice to say that there were three mech corps that first switched over to LL tanks, then remained with them until war's end. They were 1st, 3rd, and 9th Gds Mech Corps, and the LL tank in question was the M4A2. I always found it interesting that a third of the entire Guards Mech Corps - the premier armor unit of the Soviet tank forces - was comprised of Shermans. By the way, the 5th and 9th Gds. Mech Corps are one and the same unit. It became a Guards unit in Sept 1944. [This message has been edited by Greg LG (edited 12-29-2002).]
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Andreas Senior Member
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posted 12-30-2002 06:46 AM
Greg, I assume the M4A2 was the 76mm version. Do you know which units held the 75mm Shermans? My grandfather has a picture of one that was destroyed (probably Volkhov or Oranienbaum sector) in front of a howitzer battery. I understand there were far fewer of the 75mm variety sent as LL?
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Greg LG Senior Member
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posted 12-30-2002 11:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Andreas: Greg, I assume the M4A2 was the 76mm version. Do you know which units held the 75mm Shermans? My grandfather has a picture of one that was destroyed (probably Volkhov or Oranienbaum sector) in front of a howitzer battery. I understand there were far fewer of the 75mm variety sent as LL?
Andreas, The M4A2 had variants for either cannon, 75mm or 76mm. Sharp states that of the 4,102 M4A2s delivered to the USSR, 2,007 had the 75mm cannon, and 2,095 had the 76mm. Sharp states that by the end of 1943 85% of the LL armor delivered to the USSR from the northern and Persian Gulf routes were Shermans, and that the Soviets began receiving the 76mm variant by spring 1944. [This message has been edited by Greg LG (edited 12-30-2002).]
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Chris Lawrence Moderator
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posted 07-24-2015 11:55 AM
Apparently this thread is now referenced in the Wikipedia article on the Soviet 10th Tank Corps. What happens if I take down the forum?
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Hernán Member
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posted 08-29-2015 11:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chris Lawrence: Apparently this thread is now referenced in the Wikipedia article on the Soviet 10th Tank Corps. What happens if I take down the forum?
Are you going to do it? Please don't, great discussions here. About your question, I have no idea.
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